TechNet Chat: Terminal Services (September 21, 2005)
Chat Topic: Terminal Services
Date: Wednesday, September 21, 2005
Anne_MSFT (Moderator):
Welcome to todays chat with Bob Muglia, senior vice president for the Windows Server division of Microsoft; Iain McDonald, director of Windows Server program management; and Chandra Shekaran, product unit manager of Terminal Services, for an open discussion on Terminal Services in Windows Server.
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We are pleased to welcome our experts for today. I will have them introduce themselves now.
IainMc_MS (Expert):
Hey, I am Iain McDonald. Director of Program Management for Windows Server- been here 14 years, worked on windows, & exchange. blah blah. see me onlooking forward to seeing the MVPs next week - i will give a Longhorn Server talk.
Bob_MSFT (Expert):
Hi, I'm Bob Muglia. I'm the Senior VP of Windows Server and I'm glad to have the chance to chat with you...
Maxim_MSFT (Expert):
I'm Maxim Oustiougov, Program Manager for Terminal Services
Ward_MS (Expert):
Greetings, I am Ward Ralston - a Technical Product Manager with Windows Server.
Chandra_MS (Expert):
I am Chandra Shekaran. I run the Terminal Services Business in Microsoft. I am part of BobMu's org.
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Hi, I am Alex Balcanquall the Technical Product Manager for Terminal Services.
Tad_MSFT (Expert):
Hi, I am Tad Brockway. I am the Group Program Manager for the Terminal Services Business in Microsoft. I am part of Chandra's org.
IainMc_MS (Expert):
Q: Respet Licenses, each mailbox must be licensed on Exchange 2003?
A: hmmm - this is a Terminal Services talk - not an exchange talk
Ward_MS (Expert):
Q: From time to time, when using RDP, I run into a problem where instead of a logon screen I get a blank screen. Sometimes the logon box appears after a while and sometimes not. The server is Windows 2003 SP1 with all hotfixes. Any thoughts?
A: This typically occurs if there is a device between the client and the server that is receiving packets but not passing them on. One way around this problem is to change the MTU sizefor the network adapter that is being used as a terminal server connection to clients.Ethernet uses a maximum MTU size of 1500. You can start with 500 and then slowly move up until you notice the problem to find the correct value to set
IainMc_MS (Expert):
Q: Is Microsoft going to provide a seamless windows feature in a future version of Terminal Server, and if so, when?
A: we have a feature in longhorn server called remote programs - this encompasses the ability to do seamless windows type functionality.
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: how this differ from citrix
A: Terminal Services is a core feature of the Operating System. Citrix Presentation Server is a set of great partner value add that extends the functionalty of Terminal Services. For a complete list of features please see.
IainMc_MS (Expert):
Q: Will you support seamless windows soon?
A: per my pervious answer, we will have similar functionality to 'seamless windows" in longhorn server.
Tad_MSFT (Expert):
Q: what is the the underlaying theory of terminal service
A: Not sure exactly what you are looking for, but let me give it a shot. Terminal Services is about providing simultaneous (multiple users at a time) to the Windows desktop/application experience, remotely.
Maxim_MSFT (Expert):
Q: What enhancements (If any) will be made to the Session Directory Architecture currently in place?
A: There are no enhancements currently planned to Session Directory besides support for IPv6 protocol
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Explain how terminal services can allow me to control my SQL Server DB remotely
A: The Remote Desktop feature of Windows Server uses Terminal Services to allow you to remotely adminster the desktop of the SQL server.
Bob_MSFT (Expert):
Q: So Bob, I read in the paper that a lot of the divisions have been folded into each other.
Does SQL Server and Visual Studio come under XBox or Office or Windows--XBox I hope :P
A: Yes. The plan is to implement a full transactional SQL in every XBOX. that way banks can implement their business system and simulate the defense of their offices with full shoot-em-up simulation on the same hardware!
Seriously, all of Server and tools including Windows Server, SQL, and VS will stay in the platforms group - now under both Jim Allchin and Kevin Johnson. Kevin and Jim also have the MSN team - this will allow us to get greater synergy between our platform (both client and server) and services.
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Will ms provide an ssl vpn piece of software for terminal services soon?
A: In Windows Server Longhorn we will provide an TS Gateway that allows RDP to be sent over HTTPS.
Ward_MS (Expert):
Q: Could you direct me to some instructions or a paper on how to successfully licence Terminal Services?
A:https://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/techinfo/overview/termservlic.mspx
Tad_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Does "remote programs" require WinFX on the client?
A: With respect to Longhorn Server, you will be able to generally access the Remote Programs feature without having installed WinFX on the client PC. However, there may be specific functionality that is WinFX specific on the server that does require WinFX on the client.
IainMc_MS (Expert):
Q: When will some of the Bear Paw features, particularly Seamless Windows and universal print driver, be available? I thought I heard at the PDC that it will be Longhorn, but someone else told me Win2K3 Server R2.
A: Bearpaw was a code name for a project a while ago. the seamless windows like functionality is in longhorn server. the fall back printer driver (which is different from universal printer driver) is in windows server 2003 SP1 - i think you should go to brianmadden.com to see about the fall back printer driver.
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Is termianl server works on the thinclient principal
A: Yes Terminal Services works on the thinclient principal. However you will get the best experience from a rich client like Windows XP.
Chandra_MS (Expert):
LH TS features include:
--Remoting of individual apps rather than the entire desktop
--Access to TS across firewalls
--A central place for an Administrator to manage a TS deployment thru a Unified Management Console
--Redirection of PnP Devices whose drivers are UMDF compliant
Bob_MSFT (Expert):
Q: We just learned at the PDC that there will be a second "interim" release of Windows 2003 (after R2 and before Longhorn), probably in late 2006 (sync'ed with Vista).
A: Not exactly. We'll ship R2 later this year and Longhorn server in 07. In between there are no releases of Windows Server but we will be shipping some technology that will run on Server 2003 and R2. In particular, we will ship WinFX - providing the communications foundation roughtly coincident with Vista and then during H2 of 06 we'll ship Monad.
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Are there any plans to improve remote printing capabilities for Terminal Server, e.g. Universal Printing?
A: We have a fallback printer driver in Windows Server 2003 SP1 that provides a PCL / PS print driver that is used when no other driver can be found.
Maxim_MSFT (Expert):
Q: What is the functional difference between Remote Assistance and Remote Desktop as they seem to appear to be same at base level ? I mean is it just that two have a different functionality
A: Remote Assistance is focused on providing end-to-end solution for experts assisting novice users remotely. Remote Desktop is a feature that allows one to access a PC remotely. The two are based on the same technology (Terminal Services and RDP protocol). Remote Access, in addition to RD functionality, allows two people to share control over the desktop, plus provides ability for managing invitations for assistance.
Tad_MSFT (Expert):
Q: What is happening with the "Bear paw" project?
A: Bear Paw was the code name for the set of features that the TS team was working on post WS03. That feature set is now being targeted, along with other features, for the Longhorn release.
IainMc_MS (Expert):
Q: What plans do you have to change the way Windows user profiles work to better suit the needs of a TS environment?
A: in longhorn we are reworking winlogon & user profiles in a big way (this is not just a ts thing - its waaay broader) - we think this will sort out the 'interesting' experineces around profiles many of you have today.
Maxim_MSFT (Expert):
Q: will you provide any enhancements to terminal server load balancing?
A: At the moment there are no plans to enhance Terminal Services Load Balancing in Windows 'Longhorn' Server
IainMc_MS (Expert):
Q: Port 3389 is being closed at many of the Air Force bases we need TS access to. When will TS be able to work over HTTPS?
A: in longhorn server we will have a thing called the ts gateway that will allow you to do this.
Ward_MS (Expert):
Q: Can you point me to a feature comparison of TS on windows 2000 and TS on windows 2003?
A: Terminal Services in Windows Server 2003 builds upon the foundation set in W2k. This should outline the benefits: https://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/evaluation/overview/technologies/terminalserver.mspx
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Will there be any abaility to do USB Direction to sync up a PDA?
A: We have not announced detailed information of what new device redirection types will be supported with our uPnP Device Redirection Framework. It will require user mode driver framework drivers. So some devices will not be redirected.
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Will Remote Programs work for any Win32 application? Just for .NET apps? Just for WinFX apps?
A: Remote Programs will support all application types.
Tad_MSFT (Expert):
Q: what about devices ?any improvements in those areas?
A: For Longhorn Server, we are working on a more generic approach to client device redirection. Specifically, we will be redirecting devices that are UMDF (user mode driver framework) compliant. We are still finalizing the set of device classes (that are UMDF compliant) that will be supported, however.
IainMc_MS (Expert):
Q: What new SBC related features R we gonna see on Vista Server?
A: first off there is no such thing as vista server. so the simple answer would be none because it doesn't exist. but i guess you are talking of longhorn server & specifically because this is a TS talk, i am guessing the ts features - they are remote programs, ts gateway, usb device redirection, & a msi remote program packager.
Ward_MS (Expert):
Q: Will Remote Programs work for any Win32 application? Just for .NET apps? Just for WinFX apps?
A: If it runs in a Remote Desktop Environment...it will run with Remote Programs.
Chandra_MS (Expert):
Q: When will we see "Per User" licenses enforced....No rush please. We do not want a repeat of the problems with per deivce cals in the early w2k days RDP_Fan: What is Microsoft's stance on supporting applications that do not currently work well or work at.
A: We are planning to support tracking of per-named user licenses in LH. We will intro enforcement support at somepoint after that (once we get feedback from our customers that the tracking feature meets their needs).
Ensuring that desktops Apps are TS compliant is an area that we have significant scope for improvement. We'll be making improvements in LH and beyond
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: would the TS gateway support SSL?
A: Yes the TS Gateway supports HTTPS using SSL.
Bob_MSFT (Expert):
Q: When will XP Pro/Vista accept more than one remote desktop connection?
A: There are no plans to change this at this time...
Ward_MS (Expert):
Q: Is Longhorn going to be a 64bit OS? And are there going to be enhancements to TS to take advantage of this architecture?
A: Longhorn Server will indeed ship on x64....as well as x86. For Terminal Services, this is great news. By utlizing more processors and RAM that x64 offers, customers can expect to see up to a 3.4x increase in the number of users that a TS server can support.
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Are we going to see seamless RDP on Vista server?
A: The Remote Programs feature will provide this on Windows Server codename Longhorn.
Mike_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Are yo guys working with Softricity to provide some direct integration for deploying apps on TS? If so can you talk about it?
A: Softricity's products can provide value to TS customers who have applications that 1) were not designed to be multi-user applications and 2) cannot run on the same server because of application conflicts (i.e. Office XP and Office 2003).
iainmc_msft (Expert):
Q: Wait. I thought Longhorn was now called Vista? Is Longhorn server something different?
A: we have not announced naming. we're very boring in the server bidness - our updates are called things like windows server 2003 r2. one thing you can be sure of it we are resisting Bobs idea that we call it microsoft Bob Server.
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: What are the major difference between Citrix and MS terminal services in terms of use and setup?
A: Citrix is a application that is installed on top of Windows Server & leverages Terminal Services. Please see https://www.citrix.com/site/resources/dynamic/salesdocs/CitrixPresentationServer40ComparativeMatrix04AUG2005.pdf for a list of CPS features.
Tad_MSFT (Expert):
Q: What are the major difference between Citrix and MS terminal services in terms of use and setup?
A: Terminal Services is the technology that ships with Windows Server upon which MS delivers a baseline TS experience. Citrix delivers a set of layered features on top of the TS technology in Windows Server that is quite rich and adds value to TS in Windows.
Bob_MSFT (Expert):
Q: When is Microsoft going to incorporate seamless windows publishing capabilities into Terminal Services?
A: In Longhorn server
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Are you targeting the mid market (500-1000 employees) with the Longhorn release? Will this not erode the Citrix market?
A: You should use Citrix Presentation whenever your needs dicate that you have need for their feature set. For a list of Citrix Presentation Server features please see https://www.citrix.com/site/resources/dynamic/salesdocs/CitrixPresentationServer40ComparativeMatrix04AUG2005.pdf.
Chandra_MS (Expert):
Q: 3. Will there be a web interface for accessing published applications? A Sharepoint portlet?
A: Citrix is a major ISV partner for Windows and esp TS. We understand that Citrix Access Essentials supports per named user licensing so there will be opportunities for us to integrate the license purchase and provisioning experience. We are exploring this in our discussions with Citrix.
iainmc_msft (Expert):
Q: IainMc, could you expand a bit more on the improvements concerning user profiles in longhorn?
A: the problem really goes back to profiles not really being designed with roaming& multiuser scenarios - we updated profiles to handle that.
Bob_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Will Microsoft introduce a new load balancer for TS instead of NLB that supports more than 32 servers, and more balancing criteria? App load balancing?
A: We don't have any plans at this time to introduce something other then NLB. Obviously, TS works with 3rd party load balancers such as F5 and Radware.
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Will some of the new enhancements to Terminal Server that were pulled out of R2 be put into this new interim release, or will they wait until Longhorn?
A: There were no planned TS enhancements for R2. We have no new TS features in R2.
Ward_MS (Expert):
Q: On SBS 2003 Microsoft remove the possibility of running Terminal Services, why Microsoft don't do that for all DC server, it is a good idea.
A: SBS does have Remote Desktop for Administration...but since SBS is running multiple roles by default, TS was not a good candidate for the box. Agreed, it should not be deployed on a DC for security and performance reasons.
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: When should I use TS and when should I use TS with Citrix?
A: You should use Citrix whenever you need the great value they add to TS. For a list of Citrix Presentation Server features please see https://www.citrix.com/site/resources/dynamic/salesdocs/CitrixPresentationServer40ComparativeMatrix04AUG2005.pdf
iainmc_msft (Expert):
Q: will longhorn server supply templates for server tuning? (like windows server 2003 role based setup)
A: we really want to do this. one thing that is probably a better indicator is the exchange best practices analyzer - that tool, the frameworks & the idea is really good to take broader.
Mike_MSFT (Expert):
Q: What role will Citrix play, when Longhorn will be released? I can not find much free place for major enhancements (that is Citrix common approach)? That means Citrix will have much less impact on terminal services market. What do you thing about it?
A: Citrix will continue to add substantial value to the baseline level of functionality provided by Microsoft in Longhorn Server. We expect that many customers will see value in the Citrix stack, especially those customers with larger, more complex deployments.
Bob_MSFT (Expert):
Q: is there going to be published application functionality and when?
A: Yes, in Longhorn - this is an important part of the TS platform.
iainmc_msft (Expert):
Q: So both TS Gateway and Remote Programs are features of Longhorn Server. What is the ETA for it?
A: we are focused on 2007
Maxim_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Can a GPO enable RDP on windowx XP desktops
A: Yes, it can. You have to enable "Allows users to connect remotely using Terminal Services" under Computer configuration\Administrative Templates\Windows Components\Terminal Services either on a Windows XP computer itself or in GPO that manages a group of XP computer objects.
Ward_MS (Expert):
Q: Hello! I am Gordon Crumal of PCS in Fresno CA. I need a backup for a terminal server system that thin clients can log into if the primary server fails. What would be my options that I should research? (H)
A: I would look into a more fault tolerant TS solution: https://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/techinfo/overview/sessiondirectory.mspx
Bob_MSFT (Expert):
Q: when will scalability of terminal services be improved. today 50+ users dont fit well on an intel box, but I could run 1000's of processes in the same footprint under linux. THis is primarily due to desk top heap and related issues. winfx exacerbates this.
A: It is dramatically improved today on 64-bit. with 64 bit, TS is essentially CPU limited which allows hundreds of users on a single 4-way machine.
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: With the features in Longhorn, how much will the functionality gap between TS and Citrix close? Any particular features?
A: We exepct the functionality gap to be at least the same as it is today. Citrix continues to add value to Terminal Services platform in each release, this will continue through the lifetime of Longhorn.
Tad_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Are there plans to provide an RDC for Linux? Mac?
A: Microsoft has shipped a Mac RDP client. You can download at https://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=6573F9F1-8AE1-4DA9-AB5C-F8457ECDAF2D&displaylang=en. In addition, we have an RDP Licensing program to enable third parties to develop RDP clients for non-Windows clients.
iainmc_msft (Expert):
Q: Will our clients that have a Windows 2003 Terminal Server Client License with with LH Server, or will we need to purchase a new Terminal Services License for LH?
A: we have not announced packaging or licensing. the best way to avoid any bump here is software assurance.
Tad_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Will Microsoft TS supports single signon?
A: This is a feature that we are looking at for a future release :)
Bob_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Are there any plans to bolster SMS to better manager Terminal Servers? Are the two teams working together on functionality?
A: Yes, but it will be a little while before we see this.
Ward_MS (Expert):
Q: I am looking into options for backup plans for our terminal users. We have a secondary server but what is the most efficient way to sync personal folders and documents between the two servers?
A: have you considered hosting a Distrubuted File System(DFS) root? That will provide you both fault tolerance and load balancing... https://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/technologies/storage/dfs/default.mspx
Mike_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Have you seen an add-on called Softricity? What are your thoughts on this tool? Some of my customers are implementing it and I'd like to hear Microsoft's thoughts.
A: We have seen some customers use Softricity to solve problems with application compatibility, specifically where legacy apps may not be multi-user friendly or they have two applications that cannot run on the same machine.
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Do you have plans to add SSO capabilities to TS?
A: We will be working to improve the logon experience of Terminal Services in Longhorn.
Maxim_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Is it possible to make windows XP to accept more than one TS session
A: It is not possible to have more than one remote (TS) session on Windows XP. At the same time, it is possible to have multiple sessions on Windows XP Professional computer, with one of them being either local (viewed on the computer's monitor) or remote (TS).
iainmc_msft (Expert):
Q: I just want to know why terminal services on Windows Server 2003 messes up our install ;-) TS is installed, but not running and it acts like we're in a TS session.
A: i don't understand this question. is the ts in app mode?
Ward_MS (Expert):
Q: We have users that use a desktop and will want to use TS . We want to inflict certain group policy settings on them on the desktop but not on the TS and vice versa. How can this be achieved ?
A: This is a good read for you: https://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/techinfo/overview/lockdown.mspx
Mike_MSFT (Expert):
Q: In futur do you have the plan to move TS session between servers ?
A: We are investigating this feature for future versions; however, this will not be in Longhorn Server.
Maxim_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Will you provide more built-in features to manage server clusters?
A: There are no plans currently to provide better management of Terminal Server farms in Windows 'Longhorn' Server
iainmc_msft (Expert):
Q: I've got a question: on my work when people log in on a terminal server (2003) with a thin client, then log off, and log in again on another thin client. They get 2x the language bar (with the keyboard options etc.) and the programs in the taskbar are -1/2
A: is this a multilanguage server or single language? i think you have some profile corruption.
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Will licensing change at all in Longhorn TS? i.e. another huge shift like from 2000 to 2003 in requiring cals for XP machines?
A: With 2003 we require Terminal Services CALs for all machines that connect. We will continue to require CALs in future versions of Terminal Services. We have not announced picing or licensing however we would strongly recommend that you investigate Software assurance for any existing TS CALs you have.
Mike_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Where can I find more information on the TS features in Longhorn?
A: You should look out for this information closer to the end of this year.
Tad_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Will Longhorn TS have a web interface?
A: We delivered a fairly simply TS Web interface for XP/WS03. You can use this as-is or as a sample for developing your own web-based portal/page. We will be providing a similar set of ActiveX interfaces for the Remote Programs feature so that you can, for Longhorn, develop a Remote Programs-based portal.
iainmc_msft (Expert):
Q: Will there be any enhancements to TS to allow for better Macromedia Flash performance?
A: we're always looking at how we can gett better performance - i'll look into that one specifcally
Bob_MSFT (Expert):
Q: R We going to see application isolation like capabilities?
A: Yes, over time. WSRM can be used to provide a degree of metering of CPU usage and we will continue to improve this. We are looking at other isolation technologies to improve compatibility, but most of these are post-Longhorn.
iainmc_msft (Expert):
Q: Are we going to see USB port redirection on Vista?
A: <guessing you mean longhorn server> yep
Chandra_MS (Expert):
Q: What is Microsoft's stance on supporting applications that do not currently work well or work at all within TS? Do you plan to improve TS capabilities or expect ISVs and developers to alter their applications to work with TS?
A: This is an area where TS support could be better. There will be some improvements in LH and much more post LH. We also need greater involvement with the application developer community to build TS compliant apps. We are working on this front
Bob_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Am I reading correctly that for each named TS user, I need to purchase 1 TS CAL, 1 Server 2003 CAL, and if running Exchange 1 Exchange CAL?
A: Yes.
Mike_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Will there be tools to better manage TS server farms
A: Customers can use tools like Microsoft Operations Manager, Gruop Policy/AD and SMS to manage farms of Terminal Servers and 3rd parties like Citrix and other ISVs also provide value in this area.
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q:https://www.citrix.com/site/resources/dynamic/salesdocs/CitrixPresentationServer40ComparativeMatrix04AUG2005.pdf is all about Citrix to Citrix comparison. Can you tell us why should I use Citrix in the future? What benefits it brings to Longhorn TS?
A: Absolutely, Microsoft cannot tell you what features will or will not be valuable in you scenario. However wherever Terminal Services doesn't meet your needs we would expect that Citrix would be valuable to you. Commonly customer use Citrix for their client heterogenity, great farm management, comprehenisve application publishing etc.
iainmc_msft (Expert):
Q: With the increasing amount of spyware, is MS planning a more functional way of cleaning it off a TS server for an admin rather then having to log into each user account to clean it? (or deleting the user profile for a fresh one to be created)
A: we're definitely aiming at longhorn server being more secure all the way through its life. there is a difficulty with these sorts of tools - they generally are very user focused & to run each you have to be logged in. we're looking at how we can do this better, but no promises.
Maxim_MSFT (Expert):
Q: how WTS load balancing will work over HTTS-RDP redirector?
A: We are planning to provide the same experience for Terminal Server load balanced farm users - whether they connect locally (over corporate network) or remotely (through TS Gateway). It means that users should not notice the difference besides obvious and unavoidable lag in response due to network latency.
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: What are the plans to speed up 3D apps? What about DirectX/Direct3D
A: We have no plans to speed up 3D Applications.
Mike_MSFT (Expert):
Q: TS 2003 has to be licensed either by user or device - or by connector = ECL License. Is this also an option smaller or midsized TS scenarios ? I heard ECL is quite expensive ...
A: The External Connector or 'EC' is a license that allows an unlimited number of 'external' users to connect to a single terminal server. External users cannot be employees of a company. The vast majority of customers choose per-user or per-device licenses because you can purchase the exact number of licenses that are required.
Ward_MS (Expert):
Q: What causes the "Click Next after your install is finished" TS dialog to appear?
A: Do you have a licensing server installed and activated?
Bob_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Will Avalon be extended to the RDP clients for XP and CE? Will we see performance improvements for keyboard / mouse response or better streaming video support over RDP in future RDP client versions?
A: We will support Avalon remoting with good performance if Winfx is loaded on XP (we need the local avalon support to perform local graphics). For XP clients without Winfx or CE, we can only remote bitmaps so the peformance will be compromised.
iainmc_msft (Expert):
Q: is there is some method to make windows 2000 to accept RDP sessions
A: yes, turn on terminal services.
Mike_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Will the RDP Client in WYSE Thin clients and other thin clients work with LH server or will there be a new client that is needed?
A: Downlevel clients will continue to work to connect to LH server; however, the new functionality in RDP will not be supported.
Bob_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Will there be a web interface for accessing published applications? A Sharepoint portlet?
A: No - it will be published as an extension to the TS management console.
Tad_MSFT (Expert):
Q: could you give us more details on : a msi remote program packager
A: You can think of the MSI Remote Program Packaging tool as a mechanism for packaging up a shortcut to a Windows application installed on a Terminal Server. In the MSI package, exists the location of the application EXE, the application icon, etc. The resultant package is less than 100KB in size. You can create an MSI package, for winword.exe let's say, and then push that MSI out to your Windows client desktops using the MSI distribution technology of your choosing (e.g. Group Policy, SMS, third party, etc). When the MSI executes on the client, the end user ends up with a shortcut to the remote app. The end user can then click on the shortcut and Remote Programs kicks in. If you want to see a demo of an early build, check out our channel 9 video at https://channel9.msdn.com.
Ward_MS (Expert):
Q: What is a thinclient?
A:https://www.webopedia.com/TERM/T/thin_client.html
iainmc_msft (Expert):
Q: I am not familiar with "msi remote program packager". Can you expand on it or point to a reference document?
A: we have no docs, but check out tads killer video on channel9 https://channel9.msdn.com/showpost.aspx?postid=118318
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: What is the differences between pure TS environment and Jetro Platforms' CockpIT?
A: Jetro CockpIT is a partner solution that extends Terminal Services.
Bob_MSFT (Expert):
Q: are there going to be better remote management (for administrators - to clients) options in the future?
A: Yes. We are definately working to improve our management console in longhorn.
Chandra_MS (Expert):
MSFT provides the Windows TS platform with some basic features for small and medium complexity deployments. Citrix has always added tremendous value on top of TS and we expect that to continue for LH and beyond.
Tad_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Can you elaborate on what the .MSI remote packager will include?
A: Please see my previous answer to a related question.
Mike_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Will RDP 6.x be released in conjunction with Longhorn to take advantage of the new features?
A: Yes. There will be a new version of RDP that is released with Longhorn Server that will take advantage of the new features.
Bob_MSFT (Expert):
Q: will there be cpu/memory limiting tools in longhorn server? like the Windows System Resource Manager in server 2003 (enterprise)
A: Yes. We continue to extend the work we've done with 2003 resource manager.
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: With seamless windows and an SSL gateway part of Longhorn, what additional features would you expect on top of Longhorn from a Metaframe perspective post the LH release?
A: We expect Citrix to provide signifcant features on top of LH TS. However Citrix will need to provide this detail.
Maxim_MSFT (Expert):
Q: we use load balancing with 2 terminal servers, when someone logs in for the first time, it will look for the one with the least users on the server, but from then on you are stuck on that TS. If you turn 1 of the 2 TSes off, then people who logged in -1
A: I'm not sure I understand the question fully. Are you using NLB in IP affinity mode? Are you turning off Terminal Server when users are still logged on?
iainmc_msft (Expert):
Q: ian: I think the point is that with a Microsoft or data center spyware tool - it shoudl go through all the documents and settings directories for spyware - if run as admin- and all user profiles for autostart entries. the current machine has access to all.
A: yeah, we know the issues - the problem is they first need to get the client side right. i am constantly working with them on the idea of working this for a multiuser scenario.
Maxim_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Is there an advantage to domain users compared to workgroup users on TS?
A: There are multiple advantages to using domain user accounts over local (workgroup) user accounts:
* you can use Terminal Services Session Directory to establish load balanced farm of Terminal Servers;
* in general, there is only one place (Active Directory) to manage user accounts, including Terminal Server-related settings, versus managing it on all workgroup computers;
* you can use roaming profiles, which allows you to migrate user's settings across multiple computers
Mike_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Can I run TAPI devices on TS?
A: TS does not support 2-way audio; therefore TAPI devices become less interesting. I believe that Citrix supports 2-way audio today.
Bob_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Has Microsoft thought of combining TS and Virtual Server to provide "desktops on demand" via thin clients and a back-end server that could be sliced and diced into desktops?
A: Yes, but this is a very complicated thing becasue the technolgies are very different. TS provides many simultaneous sessions running on a siingle copy of Windows Server but in some cases there are compatiblity issues. Virtual SErver allows the virtualizaiton of mutlple copies of XP which provides better compatibility but the total # of sessions that you can run on a single server is limited. We continue to look at ways to optimize both of these.
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: I upgraded from SBS2000 to SBS2003 and lost my Terminal Service capability. Is there a SKU I can purchase that will reenable terminal Services on my SBS2003 box for a 8 user environment?
A: No. We disabled the Terminal Services feature in SBS 2003 to ensure the reliability and scalability of the other SBS services was maintained. You will need to add an additonal server if you wish to have Terminal Services in an SBS environment.
Chandra_MS (Expert):
Q: Hello Mr.Chandra - I just need to know when to use TS and when to use TS with Citrix. Its kind of confusing why TS and Citrix?
A: Windows TS provides a platform and a solution for small and medium complexity deployments. Citrix has always added tremendous value on top of TS and we expect that to continue in LH and beyond
iainmc_msft (Expert):
Q: ianmc: stock WS2003 with terminal services installed, logged onto the console, run our install, then the "click next" dialog appears and our install breaks; uninstall TS and our install works. Why?
A: in msdn there is a ts application guide https://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;186498 that goes over the nuances of doing this
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Do you plan to implement ICA client capability into MS desktop OS as a default option (as standard part of OS)? That may simplify the Citrix implementation from user point of view.
A: No.
Mike_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Is possible run TAPI devices on TS?
A: TS does not currently support 2-way audio. Citrix supports this in their latest version.
Tad_MSFT (Expert):
Q: What are some of the WMI interactions/improvements you plan for Terminal Services in Longhorn Server?
A: Great question. We love WMI, in TS. We will continue to invest in WMI as a technology for exposing the management surfaces in TS. This will be true for all of the new features that we are shipping in Longhorn Server.
Bob_MSFT (Expert):
Q: When will Longhorn Server be available? We heard end of 2006 for Vista and that LH Server is after that, but when? Also, will LH Server have WinFS in it from the start?
A: LH server will be in 2007. WinFS will not be available until after LH server.
Ward_MS (Expert):
Q: When will Longhorn Server be available? We heard end of 2006 for Vista and that LH Server is after that, but when? Also, will LH Server have WinFS in it from the start?
A: We are on track for 2007 Longhorn Server. Still too early to talk on where WinFS will end up.
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: you say "We have no plans to speed up 3D Applications" - but thats the whole point of WINfx - so are you saying with longhorn server you have no plans to perform with WinFX apps ?
A: If you have a TS client running WinFX you will get improved WinFX application remoting.
iainmc_msft (Expert):
Q: how does the lack of X64 bit driver support limit the uptake of Terminal Services. Particularly when considered within a Citrix environment. I understand PS4 is in beta for x64 right now. Enhanced user density on X64 platform is compelling!!!
A: we are working loads with the hardware community around building more drivers for x64. we really really are working hard on this & believe that ts gets heaps of scaling out of x64 - it will get better.
iainmc_msft (Expert):
Q: What additional TS features are you looking to add to the server release of Longhorn in 2007?
A: remote program support (sort of seamless windows), a ts gteway to allow https access, usb redirection & msi remote program packager
Chandra_MS (Expert):
Q: Will you support a concurrent license model or will we need to purchase a CAL for anyone who ever wants to connect to the Terminal Server?
A: MSFT attempts to provide a uniform and consistent licensing policy across its products. We have no plans to support a concurrent licensing model for TS.
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: I guess the main problem with WInfx - is that most thin clients (ie non XP workstations) wont have WINFX installed - so that maks WINFX not really usable in enterprises wanting to use terminal services.
A: We will be making WinFX easy to adopt on Windows XP and Vista and expect that many customers will adopt this in their enterprise envrionment.
iainmc_msft (Expert):
roger - they is another group here - yeah i know it is microsoft but they don't report through our org & we are using whatever method to convince them.
Bob_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Question for Bob - How strategic is TS to Microsoft? Given the heightened industry sentiment around compliance, security, disaster recovery, etc. I imagine it is pretty important, but we didn't see much of it at PDC.
A: It's extremely important to us. We are increasing our investement in TS - there is a huge amount of incremental platform work we need to do and it will keep us busy for a long time. In terms of the PDC, TS is important to developers but there aren't that many unique API's so it didn't have as much focus (it was highlighted in my keynote :)
Mike_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Do applications have to be certified before being able to run as remote programs?
A: Applications do not have to be certified to run as remote programs; however, applications who have gone through the certified for Windows program have the highest probability of working well.
iainmc_msft (Expert):
Q: ianmc: I don't think you understand... I'm not installing through a TS session. I'm just installing normally, but TS is installed. This ONLY happens on WS2003 and not on any other OS. TS is interfering but the API claims its not in a session
A: if ts app server is installed on a box, the world changes. this will effect anything else on the box.
Chandra_MS (Expert):
Q: Is there any work being done to improve TS connection/login time, and reduce load on the server during login?
A: Yes, this is part of our LH plans
iainmc_msft (Expert):
Q: Thinking past Longhorn....are there any development efforts concentrating on replacing the screen scraping technology with an alternative? We have low bandwidth sites (128K) and with 3-4 users, the sessions crawl due to large bursty packets (ie. printing)
A: we are not talking anyhting past longhorn at the moment, but love hearing suggestions. if you have some feel free to mail me - iainmc <at> ms
Bob_MSFT (Expert):
Q: What is a general recommendation for the company consolidation: A) the use of terminal services for standard Win32api application, or B) new web based application implementation (application webificatio)? What is Microsoft opinion about those two options?
A: There is no single answer to this question, but more and more we are putting focus on enabling the development, install, maintenance, and remoting of client-side apps that connect to web services. We think smart clients talking to smart services is the future.
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Sometimes when I install software on the console of Windows Server 20, a TS dialog appears telling me to click Next when the install is complete. This breaks our install. How do I detect this and why is it happening? We're not running in a session.
A: If you are running Windows 2003 you can use the /console switch of MSTSC to attach to the console. If you are using Windows 2000 you will need to perform your install at the physical console.
Tad_MSFT (Expert):
Q: However functional, sharing disks (local disks visible on the Terminal Service) is excruciatingly slow. Is there any plan on improving the performance, or giving a functionality a la pcanywhere,which offers a much faster file transfer functionality?
A: The data stream is compressed, today. The experience will very much be a function of the upstream speed of your connection, if you are transferring data from the client to the server. Having said that, improving the transfer speed isn't something we are currently looking at, but this is valuable feedback.
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: When will we have pass-through authentication?
A: We will be improving the sign-on experience in LH Terminal Services, we have not announced how this mechanism will work.
iainmc_msft (Expert):
Q: Will WinFX be coming to windows CE?
A: thats releated to ts... we have a thing called the compact framework on ce - full winfx? it may be a little big...
Mike_MSFT (Expert):
Q: I fill that TS is "too small" for my company. Are there any good alternatives with a fair price? - Not Citrix ;)
A: It completely depends on your feature requirements. Native TS in Windows Server provides a baseline set of functionality and 3rd parties like Citrix, Jetro Platforms, Ericom add value to the baseline solution.
Mike_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Will you be adding support for 2-way audio to 2007 Longhorn Server ?
A: There are no plans to include 2-way audio in Longhorn Server.
Bob_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Any plans to enhance the accessibility features (i.e. for handicapped users) within a TS session. For example screen readers (either support of 3rd party products, or integrated features)?
A: We are working with accessibility vendors today - we'll continue to drive this forward for LH.
Ward_MS (Expert):
Q: Where I can find more specific information about RDP protocol? It's hard to find some technical information about it. Like architecture and how RDP is reducing information to send through network. On MS Web page there is not anough info about RDP.
A: This may provide some more insight: https://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/termserv/termserv/remote_desktop_protocol.asp
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Could you elaborate on your relationship with Citrix for the new Access Essential product? Are we going to see tigher integration between TS and Citrix--especially from a licensing standpoint?
A: Citrix Access Essentials includes Terminal Services CALs to help customers by only having to buy the Microsoft & Citrix licenses that they need in one transaction.
Tad_MSFT (Expert):
Q: on the TS that is off at first, get errors instead of being redirected to the other TS. Any way to do that?
A: Hmmm ... can you elaborate?
Bob_MSFT (Expert):
Q: can you elaborate on the administrative interface for publishing applications?
A: This will appear in a later beta of LH server - stay tuned.
iainmc_msft (Expert):
Q: why is remote program support "sort of seamless windows"? what are the differences between the two?
A: seamless windows has a long history & i don't want to promise 100% of the functionality because its a little different...
Maxim_MSFT (Expert):
Q: is there going to be a load balancing support when connected over HTTPS proxy
A: If you are talking about load balancing TS Gateway servers - we are investigating this capability for Windows 'Longhorn' Server. If you are talking about how does TS Gateway affect load balancing of Terminal Server farms - our plans are to provide the same level of functionality over TS Gateway as if it were a connection over a local network.
Tad_MSFT (Expert):
Q: We have numerous "issues" (RDP, Terminal access, etc.) with Tablet PC Ink input where the pen is not recognized on the server side. What improvements in this area are forthcoming?
A: This is terrific feedback, but not something that is currently on our roadmap for RDP.
Ward_MS (Expert):
Q: i mean is it possible to turn on RDP on windows 2000 desktop not on server
A: Can a Windows 2000 Client be a RDP Server? No.
iainmc_msft (Expert):
Q: What are the plans to provide the ability to better review and document Group Policies active for a particular user account, group, etc.? This is currently a major challenge with TS in Win2003.
A: there is a thing called group policy management console that allows you to see the models of whats going to happen to each user. that was released after ws03 - check that out out.
Bob_MSFT (Expert):
Q: What are main advantages of x64 support in W2003 SP1 server from TS and Citrix performance point of view. Are there any comparison tables available?
A: Scalability!! This applies to both TS and Citrix. With 64-bit, you can put lots of memory in the server and the scalability is CPU limited. We are seeing on the order of 2x the number of simultaneous users on big TS servers.
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: R we going to see improvements for group policy (beside better ADM's)?
A: I am not sure what improvements you are interest in, from a TS perspective we are reviewing all our current polcies and looking to add many new ones.
iainmc_msft (Expert):
Q: We have numerous "issues" (RDP, Terminal access, etc.) with Tablet PC digital pen input where the pen is not recognized on the server side. What specific fixes for current servers are planned? This is crtical in medical fields, etc.
A: we're looking into it, but not in the near term
Mike_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Do you see increases or decreases in Terminal Services adoption in the market these days? Citrix always says that 100% of the F 500 use Citrix but that only about 6% account penetration. Is this what Microsoft sees?
A: Analyst reports show that the TS and Server Based Computing market is growing quite rapidly in the 12-15% range annually. We continue to see strong customer adoption and growth in this area for the forseeable future. There is significant headroom to increase the penetration in this area.
Chandra_MS (Expert):
Q: Is there any work being done on providing multiple 'desktops' on a single TS server? (i.e. User one sees applications A, B and C but user two sees applications C,D and E)
A: We currently don't have a group-specific desktop UX customization feature
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Will Microsoft TS supports Virtual IP addresses?
A: We have no plans for per session IP addresses, if you need this functionality you should look at Citrix Presentation Server 4.0
iainmc_msft (Expert):
Q: "This is terrific feedback, but not something that is currently on our roadmap for RDP" Too bad. What will it take to awaken people to do something about this?
A: feel free to send me mail - iainmc <at> ms
Maxim_MSFT (Expert):
Q: What is recommended approach for roaming users' RSA private keys when using a mix of load-balanced Terminal Servers and mixed clients (LH & below)? There's the "reworking winlogon & user profiles", DIMS, roaming user profiles. Will they be compatible?
A: I'm not sure we can answer this question in this forum - it is very technical, and some additional details are needed to answer it correctly. You might want to post it in one of Terminal Services newsgroups (https://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/newsgroups/topics/termserv.mspx)
iainmc_msft (Expert):
Q: can users log into terminal services be assign a virtual IP address?
A: we don't have plans here - there is a fine product called Citrix presentation manager 4.0 that handles this.
Bob_MSFT (Expert):
Q: The point of thin clients is they are easier to maintain and control (Security and maintenance) than windows PC's so the thin client has many advantages. Will you allow windows CE to run WINFX extensions - as thats what many thin clients use.
A: We're still looking at how to balance this. With Avalon, we take deep advantage of graphics co-processors. We can remote the avalon primitives over RDP and render them locally on a machine with these capabilities - but a true "thin client" doesn't have a GPU. Over time, we expect these capabilities to move into lower end systems - eventually "thin terminals" but that will take some time. For now, you can get full support on an XP-based terminal if it is runnign WinFx.
Mike_MSFT (Expert):
Q: RE: TS SSL Gateway. Will this be just redirecting RDP of a different port or will it be a more robust per-session certificate system similar to the Citrix Secure Gateway?
A: The TS Gateway is not just port redirection. It is designed to be a very secure way to access terminal servers from outside the firewall.
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Restating: We have numerous "issues" (RDP, Terminal access, etc.) with Tablet PC digital pen input where the pen is not recognized on the server side. What specific improvements are planned? This is crtical in medical fields, etc.
A: We have no plans for ink support.
iainmc_msft (Expert):
Q: any plans for multi-monitor support?
A: often requested & we're looking at it. no promises but i *really* want it too. there is a fine product called citris presentation manager 4.0 that provides a method to do this.
Bob_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Would Microsoft ever recommend using XP Embedded on a thin client device and running apps such as Office directly there, without accessing the application via a Terminal Server? Some of our customers have requested this.
A: No. You need a full copy of Windows on the client to run an app like office.
Ward_MS (Expert):
Q: Is there a way to automatically force a session to logoff if it has been idle for a given amount of time? I have users who do not log off their sessions, but simply disconnect or they may have problems with a steady ISP connection?
A: Yes, this can be accomplished through Group Policy or the Session Manager... more details are here: https://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/library/ServerHelp/8b8f037a-a883-456d-a5c8-5346c6d731bc.mspx
iainmc_msft (Expert):
Q: Do you see a demand by companies that prefer or strongly prefer the RDP protocol over the ICA protocol (as RDP is more standard)?
A: low latency nets is usually one of the big places. but there are some great management tools for ica
Tad_MSFT (Expert):
Q: The shadow session only support two sessions actually, will be possible to connect more in the future?
A: There are some Vista features that will enable sharing of a desktop/app with multiple users, simultaneously. These new features just so happened to be using RDP under the covers ... and we intend to enable these Vista scenarios within the TS environment. However, the 'shadow' feature that we shipped originally with WIN2K will continue to support shadowing of a single session only for Longhorn Server.
Bob_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Are you planing to ehance RDP support for low-bandwidth / high-latency connections?
A: No plans. Citrix does a great job with this.
iainmc_msft (Expert):
Q: is there going to be a scanner support?
A: what sort of scanner? do you mean under usb redir?
Bob_MSFT (Expert):
Q: To Bob and his team: This is an awesome forum and chock full of information. Thanks for providing this level of interaction. It certainly is appreciated.
A: You're welcome!!! We love doing this.
Chandra_MS (Expert):
Q: what platforms will RDP 6.0 client support 98, 2000, XP?
A: The LH TS will negotiate down to the capabilities of the TS client, so the best experience will be for LHS connecting to Vista clients
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Will there be a portal or web page presentation of apps in LH?
A: We will be updating the ActiveX control to support remote programs. This will allow you to launch remote programs as you can with remote desktop today.
Bob_MSFT (Expert):
I've gotta run to a call but this has been great. Some members of the team will stick around a bit longer to keep answering the open quesitons... Thanks!
Tad_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Can you give any specifics/details at all on the improved centralized management of TS in Longhorn?
A: Not yet :)
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Restating: Do you see a demand by companies that prefer or strongly prefer the RDP protocol over the ICA protocol (as RDP is more standard)?
A: We never see companies differentiating between RDP and ICA. what is important is the feature set that Citrix Presentation Server
Q: Can you give any specifics/details at all on the improved centralized management of TS in Longhorn?
A: Today there are several tools in windows to manage TS. We are working to consolidate these tools to make it easier to manage a server from a single tool.
iainmc_msft (Expert):
Thanks, for chatting folks - i have to run to another meeting. feel free to send me mail if you have suggestions or idea around what we should do for windows server.
Tad_MSFT (Expert):
Q: In Longhorn, will there be a way to tune the RDP virtual channels in efforts to flatten out the bursts of large packets (ie. printing channel)
A: Yup. This improvement was checked into Longhorn Server B1.
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Will it be considered for Vista to allow more than one RDP session or allow 2 concurrent sessions on the same box. Perhaps for the Ultimate edition. This would be a big plus and very useful.
A: We have no plans for addtional sessions on the same box.
Maxim_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Is there an advantage to domain users compared to workgroup users on TS?
A: Definitely. First of all, there are general advantages to having domain users:
* single point of managing user accounts, passwords, settings (Active Directory) - versus having to manage them on every computer;
* ability to have roaming user profiles to migrate application settings, documents for a user between multiple computers.
Some TS-specific benefits:
* ability to centrally manage TS user settings from Active Directory;
* ability to centrally manage Group Policy settings (there are per-user TS Group Policy settings);
* ability to setup a farm of load-balanced Terminal Servers with Session Directory (it does not support workgroup-based user accounts).
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Where can we find out more details on the profile changes coming in Longhorn? Especially as it pertains to TS users.
A: We have no public details at this time, once the detail are public these changes will be documented on the MSDN, technet & TS sites.
Mike_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Can you speak to any changes in the development/QA testing for hotfixes. In particular why do we continue to have rollups/patches that affect the stability of your ISV Partner of the year Citrix?
A: We continue to work closely with Citrix and other ISVs to reduce the impact of service packs and hotfixes.
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: So will remote programs require Vista on the client side?
A: You will be able to access Remote Programs on a Terminal Server from both XP and Vista clients.
Chandra_MS (Expert):
Thx for all the great questions, folks! Signing off
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Alex: Sessions on same box, thats a shame, I think this would make a great addtion would be nice if it could be considered! Thanks!
A: Thanks for the feedback - we do listen!
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: is there going to be a USB scanner support?
A: We have not announced what device types our new device redirection framework will support.
Maxim_MSFT (Expert):
Q: So will remote programs require Vista on the client side?
A: The plans are not to require Windows Vista on the client side for Remote Programs - just Windows Vista Terminal Services Client. At the same time, by using Windows Vista on the client, you might be able to get richer Remote Programs experience.
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: The link to RDP info is not anough for me. i've seen it before. i need info about channels, what are elements of TS and what they are doing to provide communication? How many channels are used for single user? Especially what are compression methods.
A: If you require information beyond what is MSDN the only way to access the information is to license the RDP protocol.
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Will Longhorn Server have UAP / LUA features built into it?
A: Yes.
Mike_MSFT (Expert):
Q: How well today does TS fit inside virtualized VMWare/Virtual Server environments, whats being done for the future regarding this?
A: The main scenarios where customers have requested for virtualization are in order to consolidate and to isolate applications from one another. We are working to improve the performance and scalability of TS in a virtual guest.
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Any plans for "Virtual IP Pools"?
A: I am not sure what you mean by Virtual IP pools. If you mean per session IP addresses then we have no plans to support this.
Maxim_MSFT (Expert):
Q: TAPI devices connected to my serial Port, can be used on TS?
A: There are no plans to support
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: How will users access published applications on Longhorn?
A: An MSI package will need to distributed to the client, or you can hand craft the .RDP file and distribute that. Finally you can use tha ActiveX object and construct your own web page.
Mike_MSFT (Expert):
Q: will there be a central inteface (like citrix server console) for managing your servers? (central settings, policy's etc)
A: Group Policy can be used to centrally manage server settings and policy. We are working on reducing the number of tools that are required to manage a single terminal server, but are not planning on releasing a central tool to manage across a farm in Longhorn Server.
Maxim_MSFT (Expert):
There are no plans to support 'remote microphone' capability in Windows 'Longhorn' Terminal Services. Remote audio is supported. At the same time, TAPI requires both to function, so you could hear (remote audio), as well as speak ('remote microphone'). So the short answer is no: there are no plans to do that.
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Is it possible to configure Outlook 2003 individual mailboxes to individual ts users?
A: Yes you should look at using the Office Custom Installation Wizard that will create the needed PRF file for you.
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: what can you recommend for internal messaging on terminal services, there are several "domain" type products, but they will not work in a TS environment. I want to have windows messanger type ability, but limit it to company users on the TS server, no net.
A: You can use Microsoft Live Communication Server
Mike_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Are there any session control features build in the TS product (e.g. CPU and MEMORY limit per application or user)?
A: You can use Windows System Resource Manager (WSRM) in Windows Server 2003 to manage the CPU and memory utilization of apps on TS.
Maxim_MSFT (Expert):
Q: We have an issue with our Wyse thin clients losing synchronization of the CAPS lock key during the ts session. Our HIS application requires case sensitivity. Any suggestions??
A: I'm not sure this question can be answered without looking at more details. You might want to post it on one of TS newsgroups: https://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/newsgroups/topics/termserv.mspx
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: do you plan to made a new version of delprof.exe where we could specified the name of user ? (it's could be good on script. ...)
A: Have you checked out the latest version of delprof available from microsoft.com? It allows you to do this and more - for example you can delete all profiles remotely that are older than a given date. Works great in a script.
Mike_MSFT (Expert):
Q: I have a pc that is attempting to access a terminal server using remote desktop but upon logging in comes back login not allowed. I have added users to the correct groups but I seem to be missing something.....any ideas on why I can't connect?
A: You should try this on the newsgroups.
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: will there be a more flexible interface towards client printing (like presentation server 4.0) which allows you to specify criteria in which to map client printers?
A: We have no plans to change the way TS printing works.
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: We have some performance problems with Java Based application running on TS or Citrix environments. Will 64 bit OS somehow help to solve this problem?
A: x64 will not help you.
Mike_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Are there any changes to TS to allow for better printing compression? (ie. instead of installing ThinPrint?)
A: There are no planned changes in Longhorn for enhanced compression of the print stream.
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: will applications take advantage of new Interface elements in Vista, be able to run sufficiently well on Longhorn Server?
A: Yes, however for best performance you will need a client machine with WinFX installed.
Maxim_MSFT (Expert):
Q: about my load balancing question: no the users are logged off (so we turn it of on an evening) but when users try to log on, they get problems
A: It might be a problem with NLB setup (IP affinity is a possible culprit). You might want to post this question on one of TS newsgroups, with additional details: https://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/newsgroups/topics/termserv.mspx
Mike_MSFT (Expert):
Q: am having trouble installing Office 2000 on a Win2K TS. Office works without problems in install mode. However, if I place it in execute mode, users can no longer save any documents. Any suggestions?
A: Since we are running out of time you might want to post this to the newsgroups if you haven't already: https://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/newsgroups/topics/termserv.mspx
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Any improvements with Java based application running on TS environments from performance point of view? What about x64 bit support benefits?
A: x64 will only provide a benefit if memory is your limiting factor.
Maxim_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Can you give an example of some useful WMI related operations that will be made possible with LH?
A: This question is too detailed for a public chat :-). Look for more information about Terminal Services Longhorn APIs (including WMI extensions) later this year-next year, when it becomes available on MSDN.
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Any changes on managing printers on a TS environment? Such as if you allow employees to connect to a TS from home and be able to let them connect local printers based in a policy (Let's say HP Laser 4000 for user1 but not for user2) for example.
A: We won't have anything that will give you that granularity.
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Any changes on managing printers on a TS environment? Such as if you allow employees to connect to a TS from home and be able to let them connect local printers based in a policy (Let's say HP Laser 4000 for user1 but not for user2) for example.
A: No, you may want to look at an alternate solution to meet these needs.
Mike_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Is there any change planed at the print subsystem or I should use cockpit Jetro as the solution?
A: It depends on what printing features you need. Jetro, Citrix, ThinPrint, UniPrint and TriCerat and several other ISVs provide value added features in this area. In Longhorn Server we are working on improving the performance of printing on TS.
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Do you have any recommended 'best practices' when utilizing terminal services in a outsourced support environment? (i.e. using TS to facilitate a cross-forest support infrastructure )
A: Wow, thats a broad question :-) the key things would be to ensure you get a good application compatibility methodology, make sure you have set the licensing server opitons correctly and remember that security and patching are key.
Maxim_MSFT (Expert):
Q: Internet Telephony is popular now. How it works on TS? How to manage bandwidth consumption?
A: If I understand correctly, IP Telephony requires audio to be redirected in both directions - from TS session to a client machine, and back. While redirection of audio from TS session to a client machine is supported, there are no plans currently to support redirection in the other direction ('remote microphone'). Therefore, IP Telephony would not work on TS out of the box.
Mike_MSFT (Expert):
Q: TAPI devices connected to my serial Port, can be used on TS?
A: If they connect via the serial port they might work, but if they require 2-way audio they will not work.
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: re: "thats related to ts... we have a thing called the compact framework on ce - full winfx? it may be a little big "- well its what is necessary to run the winfx extensions on compact framework - else winfx is not successful for thin clients!
A: Thanks for the feedback.
Alex_MSFT (Expert):
Q: @Alex : Could you give me the last version of delprof , https://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;315411 here we can't delete a specific profiles :'(
A: you are correct, it doesn't allow you to specifcy single user accounts - sorry. However you should find the date based deletion great for pruning roaming profiles on a TS box.
Maxim_MSFT (Expert):
Bye, everyone - we are out of time :-). It was great chatting with you (reminds me of the good old IRC days) - hope our answers helped you.
Anne_MSFT (Moderator):
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